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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    OK got it.I see now. I never seen the code stamped on the face of the crossover like that before and in black on black ...

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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Hello,
    I have uploaded some pics of the crossovers. I have not seen any obvious problems with them, hopefully you will be able to tell what they are. Most listeners would probably be content with their sound as is, I am just hoping to get a fuller top end. I do enjoy the mid range detail they have, I listened to a Hall and Oates tune called "Out of Touch", and heard a background guitar track I did not know was there. My wife did not understand why I would be interested in "old stereo stuff" like these speakers until I put her on the couch in the living room in front of them in the dark. I played REM's Everybody Hurts, and you'd swear Michael Stipe was sitting on top of the tv that was in between the Altecs. They kind of remind me of myself, somewhat old and beatup, but still with potential.
    Thanks for your advice with my ongoing project.
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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Definitely the 32343 network. I suppose i should map out a circuit diagram one of these days so we can all figure out exactly what the extra goodies are doing to shape the HF response. besides sounding great in the 9849's i've also found them to be a worthy temporary plug n play upgrade for the stock 604-8G network.

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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Thanks,
    And a side note for Altec's Best- My first cousin Jim Herrmann is the defensive backs coach for the Giants. I got to see him when he came to town a few weeks back for the Cowboys game here.( I live just south of Dallas.) So I too will be rooting for them, he's been with them for three seasons but is not sure if he'll be back next season.
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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfenbit View Post
    Thanks,
    And a side note for Altec's Best- My first cousin Jim Herrmann is the defensive backs coach for the Giants. So I too will be rooting for them, he's been with them for three seasons but is not sure if he'll be back next season.
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    Cool ! Go Giants ! Can't wait for that Packers-Giants game should be a good one...

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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Definitely the 32343 network. I suppose i should map out a circuit diagram one of these days so we can all figure out exactly what the extra goodies are doing to shape the HF response. besides sounding great in the 9849's i've also found them to be a worthy temporary plug n play upgrade for the stock 604-8G network.
    I wonder if it's a Zobel (spelling?) network like the 1221A crossovers are......... or so I've been told they are.
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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Definitely the 32343 network. I suppose i should map out a circuit diagram one of these days so we can all figure out exactly what the extra goodies are doing to shape the HF response. besides sounding great in the 9849's i've also found them to be a worthy temporary plug n play upgrade for the stock 604-8G network.
    Someone reverse engineered this back on a previous post. Looks like zobels on both HF and LF with the typical 2nd order network. There is a HF bypass cap that will give a needed 6db or so boost to the top end.

    I have three 9849-8D running as front channels in a home theater setup and they are pretty awesome with a modified Karlson K15 doing sub duty to fill in the bass. Some day I will recap these old crossovers just to see if improvements can be had but they seem to be working OK with the old original parts for now.

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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

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    > This is the network diagram you're referring to ( I think ) .

    > The 2 most significant problems on this drawing are ;
    (i) it's never been double checked by anyone else owning this network ,
    (ii) all the inductor values are simply guesses .

    > It would be nice if someone took their 32343 network apart / & then measured the components with something like WT2 and then corrected the above schematic .


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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Hello,
    I got the 908-8b's apart, but am unsure whether I'm looking at a loading cap or not. The picture shows the unit removed from the 908, and the 806 cap next to it. I have a few more pics, but can't remove the other pics from the upload manager to make more room. I am guessing that the cap was already removed from the driver before I bought it, the mounting screws had been replaced with shorter screws on one of the drivers. I have replaced the speaker terminals on the crossover units. One wire seemed to have heated up considerably to one of the inductors, the insulation has been melted, but nothing else seems to have been affected.
    Thanks
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    Re: Ideas or concerns about upgrading a pair of 9849A's

    Cap on the left is new style loading cap found on 900 series drivers, on OEM apps where the driver would be inside a cabinet they're often the only cap on the driver, there is no "cover" per se`

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